diferences between DSS - DSS940 fix

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ducks007
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29 okt 2017, 19:17

Hello,
I'm sure someone here can easily answer for my question about DSS :geek:
Here in France, it's difficult to find information about this great items that are DSC950 and DSS.
I love the 900 series and I search informations about this items missing me on my collection and I've see different informations about the speakers DSS :
I've see that we can find 3 types : DSS 930 / 940 and 930 SE

But what's the differences between us and what the best are ? (I know it's little subjective opinion )
I see the DSS 940 (the last ones if I've understand) the 930 (first one) but what are the DSS 930 SE ??
What is the particularity of this one and does it look like 930 or are they very different?
I hope you can explain me and I'm sure you have great experiences and/or photos about this fantastics items
Thank you :wink:
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movieman
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29 okt 2017, 19:38

The DSS930SE has a different cabinet design (black) and a smooth cloth over the metal frame with a "golden" SE-emblem attached to the front. On the back a "golden" emblem is mounted with the productionnumber (the SE is limited to 700 sets). The tweeter is special and better, the amplifier is the same, only the programme (software) is newly developed. They sound warmer and more detailed.

The DSS940 has a woofersignalfeedback built-in for correction of possible distortion and is a completely different speaker with two drivers only and is a bassreflexsystem. I don't like the sound but that's, as you said, a personal taste issue. The DAC is a TDA1305T, in the DSS930 a SAA7350AGP.
ducks007
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30 okt 2017, 11:37

Thank you for this clear lesson :)
I've never see this DSS930SE but I suppose to find a set was "mission impossible" :mrgreen: and the price should be high, isn't it?
700 for the world...
This SE was the last 930 produced before 940 ?
I've read that 940 have more bass than 930 but they looks like more simple (perhaps cheap) than 930
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movieman
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30 okt 2017, 13:09

Yes the DSS940 is cheaper in price and design.

I bought my SE's new back in the days, I guess I am one of the lucky people out there. :mrgreen:

To my knowledge the SE's were produced at the same time as the 930's but before the 940's. The SE's didn't show up in the consumer magazines, at least not in the ones I had.
ducks007
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31 okt 2017, 10:45

ok ;)
so If will buy a DSC/DSS I should find DSS930 on priority instead of DSS940 because findind 930SE should be a dream I suppose.
The best way was to find someone who have all models to compare in live but in France I think it's not possible because DSS are very rare...
Philips DSC950 DSS930 FT950 FT930 DCC900 DCC951 FV930 FC940 FC950 FA930 CD940 CD950 CDC925 CDC935 FW2017
Marantz DD82 / Hitachi HA 2500M / JVC A-L11
DCC130 / DCC175 / DCC170
...
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movieman
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31 okt 2017, 11:21

A friend of mine lives in Grenoble. He often visits his family in the Netherlands so there might be a way for you the get DSS or MFB...
j-rune
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31 okt 2017, 11:55

ok ;)
so If will buy a DSC/DSS I should find DSS930 on priority instead of DSS940 because findind 930SE should be a dream I suppose.
The best way was to find someone who have all models to compare in live but in France I think it's not possible because DSS are very rare...
I personally (my opinion) prefer the DSS940 over the DSS930, but when it comes to the DSS930SE... these are way better than the normal DSS930. It then depends the kind of music if I prefer the DSS930SE over the DSS940 and vice versa...
ducks007
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03 nov 2017, 19:29

A friend of mine lives in Grenoble. He often visits his family in the Netherlands so there might be a way for you the get DSS or MFB...
Thank you for your help, I very good idea, I note it :clap:
Philips DSC950 DSS930 FT950 FT930 DCC900 DCC951 FV930 FC940 FC950 FA930 CD940 CD950 CDC925 CDC935 FW2017
Marantz DD82 / Hitachi HA 2500M / JVC A-L11
DCC130 / DCC175 / DCC170
...
ducks007
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03 nov 2017, 19:34

ok ;)
so If will buy a DSC/DSS I should find DSS930 on priority instead of DSS940 because findind 930SE should be a dream I suppose.
The best way was to find someone who have all models to compare in live but in France I think it's not possible because DSS are very rare...
I personally (my opinion) prefer the DSS940 over the DSS930, but when it comes to the DSS930SE... these are way better than the normal DSS930. It then depends the kind of music if I prefer the DSS930SE over the DSS940 and vice versa...
it depend of type of music I think, each ear are differents and that's why we love hifi too, the advantage of DSC950 that we can connect several pair of DSS speakers, it's very easy to compare with a same source when we have the 2 or 3 type at disposal
Philips DSC950 DSS930 FT950 FT930 DCC900 DCC951 FV930 FC940 FC950 FA930 CD940 CD950 CDC925 CDC935 FW2017
Marantz DD82 / Hitachi HA 2500M / JVC A-L11
DCC130 / DCC175 / DCC170
...
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movieman
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03 nov 2017, 19:36

He speaks French, much better than I do. :mrgreen:
ducks007
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04 nov 2017, 09:08

He speaks French, much better than I do. :mrgreen:
Or me with Dutch :D
Bedankt
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citcitrophilips
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12 nov 2017, 08:48

He speaks French, much better than I do. :mrgreen:
Or me with Dutch :D
Bedankt
Bonjour,
Vous avez frappé à la bonne porte : movieman connaît les DSS par cœur :)

J’ai les DSS 930, 930SE et 940 (et Marantz DMS 600, qui sont identiques au 940). Les 930SE sont les plus chouettes, mais difficiles à trouver.

J’ai un DSC en réserve, que je peux céder, et je pense aussi une paire de DSS930 (révisées).

Cordialement
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citcitrophilips
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12 nov 2017, 09:50

ok ;)
so If will buy a DSC/DSS I should find DSS930 on priority instead of DSS940 because findind 930SE should be a dream I suppose.
The best way was to find someone who have all models to compare in live but in France I think it's not possible because DSS are very rare...
I personally (my opinion) prefer the DSS940 over the DSS930, but when it comes to the DSS930SE... these are way better than the normal DSS930. It then depends the kind of music if I prefer the DSS930SE over the DSS940 and vice versa...
it depend of type of music I think, each ear are differents and that's why we love hifi too, the advantage of DSC950 that we can connect several pair of DSS speakers, it's very easy to compare with a same source when we have the 2 or 3 type at disposal
Hello,

For pop music, the 940’s are great, because the have a powerful bass.

The 930 are more subtle, balanced. They are great for all kinds of music. But the are more sensitive: some CDs (dynamic compression strikes again) are difficult for the 930’s, whereas the 940’s cope with that more easily.

Cheers
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movieman
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12 nov 2017, 14:41

Bonjour mon ami, ça va? :mrgreen:
ducks007
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12 nov 2017, 15:55

He speaks French, much better than I do. :mrgreen:
Or me with Dutch :D
Bedankt
Bonjour,
Vous avez frappé à la bonne porte : movieman connaît les DSS par cœur :)

J’ai les DSS 930, 930SE et 940 (et Marantz DMS 600, qui sont identiques au 940). Les 930SE sont les plus chouettes, mais difficiles à trouver.

J’ai un DSC en réserve, que je peux céder, et je pense aussi une paire de DSS930 (révisées).

Cordialement
Bonjour :)
Quelle chance d'avoir la collection complete !! :o :clap: :pray:
Je suis du côté de Chalon sur saone/ Beaune mais une amie habite à Grenoble il m'arrive donc de descendre de temps en temps, peut être un jour ce serait l'occasion de pouvoir écouter la différence entre ces merveilles.
Movieman a l'air d'être la bible des DSS et je le remercie pour ses précieux conseils.
J'ai loupé des 930SE à prix cassé la semaine dernière, j'ai renoncé avec tristesse ce matin à un lot à prix raisonnable de 4 dss930+ dsc950 en état standard car le transport depuis la Hollande pour la France ( même avec l'aide de mon ami Lowie et celle de Movieman) aurait été compliqué (80kg le lot) mais j'ai finalement un ami de Paris qui va me céder sont set DSS930 / DSC car il préfère son FA950, ils sont dans état neuf il a même encore les cartons d'origine, mais je pense qu'une petite révision sera sûrement utile vu l'âge, donc j'aurais sûrement besoin de conseils ;)
Cordialement, Benoit
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Marantz DD82 / Hitachi HA 2500M / JVC A-L11
DCC130 / DCC175 / DCC170
...
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